"I agree. This website is nothing but spam now. I might need to take a break... Simply UNUSABLE... Not the fault of the admins, of course, but the ANNOYING EKT community full of Children. This website was great but now it has become full of garbage. All that we can do now is just wait or hope the moderators do something. This activity is not funny. The site is a hell now. This ruins our community because some children think that it is funny that a song was found in a porn movie. Carl is embarrassed enough. Do not call him such words as "Gooner" this is very rude and childish. And why are people trying to have sex with the boombox? The boombox has nothing to do with EKT. In fact, it has as much to do with EKT lore as my cassette copy of Boards of Canada's Geogaddi has to do with the search for Fond My Mind. I will have to most likely take a break from this website, unfortunate because I love it...why are you guys messing around with the proposal system. you're not supposed to do that.
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Silly1silvy3 commented Il y a 5s"Dude. Carl isnt even active on here. 😭 you act like we're out to get him. Yes, it is funny the song was found in a porn movie, boo hoo, be upset. You act like this is a website for a fandom and we're trying to destroy it 😭 this is a SONG FINDING WEBSITE. what community is there? People trying to find songs??? It's an old music website, not Wikipedia, calm the hell down 😵😵😵
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SongsFidner9 commented Il y a 18s"Are people bringing racism here??? What about searching for songs is racist??? Why do people spam racist submissions??? This is a search for a lost song. I wish these people would be better. But you are spamming too. So nobody is innocent here.
"Y... You shouldn't have done that...!! 👿 as if you didn't fucking put a racist one up there earlier when everyone else was swarming here. You are not slick 😭why are you guys messing around with the proposal system. you're not supposed to do that. -
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packersfan86 commented Il y a 2min"And I really think that if Everyone Knows That doesn't exist anymore, it's time for us to simply move on. It doesn't exist, then there's really not much to get done.
"This is a very good website. You are very correct and the community is great. At least, hopefully it will be, but with the antics of EKT fans it might not be so trustworthy for long. The Classic internet is being taken over by people with no such cares for what we do here. I can't even look at the Recent Activity section anymore. This site has become a mess. If only the mods will do something about it so it can die down and we can use this site properly again?I'm sorry, but no metadata details were given to this song. I also prefer to use watzatsong since I trust this website. -
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SongsFidner9 commented Il y a 2min"I agree. This website is nothing but spam now. I might need to take a break... Simply UNUSABLE... Not the fault of the admins, of course, but the ANNOYING EKT community full of Children. This website was great but now it has become full of garbage. All that we can do now is just wait or hope the moderators do something. This activity is not funny. The site is a hell now. This ruins our community because some children think that it is funny that a song was found in a porn movie. Carl is embarrassed enough. Do not call him such words as "Gooner" this is very rude and childish. And why are people trying to have sex with the boombox? The boombox has nothing to do with EKT. In fact, it has as much to do with EKT lore as my cassette copy of Boards of Canada's Geogaddi has to do with the search for Fond My Mind. I will have to most likely take a break from this website, unfortunate because I love it...
"why are you guys messing around with the proposal system. you're not supposed to do that. -
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Silly1silvy3 commented Il y a 6min"Y... You shouldn't have done that...!! 👿 as if you didn't fucking put a racist one up there earlier when everyone else was swarming here. You are not slick 😭
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packersfan86 commented Il y a 6min"Yeah I've heard of that song before. As a 38 year old I did some search but didn't found anything about it. It's really obscure that I feel like it'll stay hidden.
"This is a very good website. You are very correct and the community is great. At least, hopefully it will be, but with the antics of EKT fans it might not be so trustworthy for long. The Classic internet is being taken over by people with no such cares for what we do here. I can't even look at the Recent Activity section anymore. This site has become a mess. If only the mods will do something about it so it can die down and we can use this site properly again?I'm sorry, but no metadata details were given to this song. I also prefer to use watzatsong since I trust this website. -
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tyx commented Il y a 7min"why are you guys messing around with the proposal system. you're not supposed to do that."
guglielm
Il y a 440 jours
RojoCatto
@Mods cleanup! Please change the artist to "Price Group" and remove the "(demo?)" part of the title according to what Kurty found
Il y a 440 jours
Kurty
I'll let you know if I get the digitized recording.
Il y a 441 jours
Kurty
Looking for more informations about Jim Price, I've found his old angelfire site dedicated to Neblung Price band, which actually quotes the lyrics "All the words are still there, in another green world" and includes a lot of screencaps from old video footage.
https://www.angelfire.com/nj2/nebpri/p5.html
Alright, but we still don't know where the Guglielm's recording comes from originaly.
I was digging through archived pages of R.Stevie Moore website, and I've found a very interesting listings of cassette compilations "Friends And Enemies" produced by R.Stevie Moore in the 80s.
From the labeling of the tapes, I'm sure it was released locally in New Jersey area.
http://web.archive.org/web/20211204045728/http://www.rsteviemoore.com/tp/friendsenemies.html
Excerpt of the 1983 listing is here:
15. ROGER FERGUSON "Radios"
16. PRICE GROUP "The Words Are Still There"
17. MIKE HOPPER "Seems to Soothe"
I am confident that the original version of the song, has to be on that tape. It makes perfect sense. R.Stevie Moore as a producer of the compilation could provide the programmed lo-fi drum track to Jim Price,
and also play some of the other instruments, while Price Group taken care of the rest. So R. Stevie Moore's involvement is explained, but it's a Price Group/Jim Price song in my opinion.
That's why the acoustic recording exist, because RSM liked the song.
From what I know these cassettes are not available anywhere, but maybe someone will be lucky enough to find it/get it somehow. There must be so many obscure songs on these compilation.
BTW. Today is R.Stevie Moore's 71st birthday!
Il y a 467 jours
Kurty
OK, so let's go back to the beginning. Swiðr has found the "acoustic" version on Bandcamp https://rsteviemoore.bandcamp.com/track/the-words-are-still-there along with the "Drums Only" distorted track from the original Guglielm's recording https://rsteviemoore.bandcamp.com/track/words-still-there
We need to go deeper.
Price Check Moore's Code ~ Freedom Now release (which contains the drum track) has this info in the description:
"The Best of Jim Price, WFMU (1977-1982) NJ USA Produced and compiled by R. Stevie Moore"
Jim Price is a WFMU DJ, and a close friend of R. Stevie Moore. They collaborated many times back then, there's a plenty of video footage of them from 70s, 80s and 90s. Jim also recorded a lot of footage for RSM music videos, and he's credited in the descriptions on official R. Stevie Moore YT channel.Examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbYEpYGPMXM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eU9nxW1Shg
Here's a review of "Amateur Hour" release (which contains the acoustic version): http://web.archive.org/web/20211204041506/http://www.rsteviemoore.com/tp/amateur.html
"Recorded over a long weekend in November 1983 with nothing more than a couple of guitars, a set of bongos, and a malfunctioning four-track cassette Portastudio,
Amateur Hour is the R. Stevie Moore album that most closely resembles the lo-fi craze that would start a decade or so later. The 29 songs are a mixture of wayward
semi-improvisations, oddball covers, and new takes of old Moore favorites, mostly performed on a trebly, clangorous acoustic guitar with Moore singing at the very
top of his range, giving much of the album an uneasy, anxious-sounding feel that's mitigated somewhat by the easygoing, ramshackle looseness of the performances."
The listing gives credit to original composers/performers of the songs, for example:
06. We're In Vietnam (1.58)
07. Can't Buy Me Love (1.50) (Beatles)
08. One Night (2.06) (Elvis)
09. The Words Are Still There (2.41) (Jim Price)
10. A Tank! (0.23)
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guglielm
Il y a 540 jours
Kurty
The Best of Jim Price, WFMU (1977-1982) NJ USA
Produced and compiled by R. Stevie Moore
Since Jim Price didn't release anything on it's own in the early 80s, his songs were produced but also released by R.Stevie Moore. I still think it's a song of Jim Price.
Il y a 540 jours
guglielm
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Kurty
R.Stevie Moore sites lists (Jim Price) next to "The Words Are Still There" here: https://web.archive.org/web/20211204041506/http://www.rsteviemoore.com/tp/amateur.html
R.Stevie Moore version features acoustic guitar, but in the background I can hear identical vocals and bass parts just like in the guglielm's recording! I'm not saying it's not his song, it can still be a part of their colaboration (which was a thing in the 80s)
Also there is an old site dedicated to Jim Price and Neblung Price band, which quoted "All The Words Are Still There In Another Green World".
I think those lyrics are important for them, and are significant part of their local music journey. https://www.angelfire.com/nj2/nebpri/p5.html
Jim Price is still a very active host on WFMU so I think he can be asked about it :)
Il y a 541 jours
RojoCatto
A version that resembles the instrumental, but doesn't have the vocals: https://rsteviemoore.bandcamp.com/track/words-still-there
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