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    "Ulterior Motives" / "Everyone Knows That"

    "On the Roof"

    D>E>A>T>H>M>E>T>A>L

    "How Long (Will It Take)"

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    Lostwave is a term for songs with little to no information available about their origins, including song titles, names of associated musicians, and recording and release dates. These songs have been the subject of online crowdsourced efforts to uncover their origins.[1]

    Notable examples[edit]
    "Ready 'n' Steady"[edit]
    Main article: Ready 'n' Steady
    "Ready 'n' Steady" is a song by American musicians Dennis Lucchesi and Jim Franks, credited as D.A, which was recorded in 1979. Despite never being publicly or commercially released, the song debuted on the Billboard's Bubbling Under Hot 100 chart at number 106, rising to number 102 before disappearing from the chart.[2] To date, the song is the only song without an official release appearing on a Billboard chart. The song's existence was in question for many years,[3] but was confirmed to be real in 2016. It was aired on KFAI in Minneapolis, Minnesota, US, that same year, the only known instance of it being aired on radio.[4]

    "The Most Mysterious Song on the Internet"[edit]
    Main article: The Most Mysterious Song on the Internet
    "The Most Mysterious Song on the Internet" was recorded by teenager Darius S. from a radio program that aired on the West German public radio station Norddeutscher Rundfunk.[5][6] The song was recorded to a cassette tape, which also included other songs by the bands XTC and The Cure. To get a clean copy of the songs, the DJ chatter was removed, which is possibly why the song's exact airplay date and title are unknown.[7]

    The song was first posted online between 2004 and 2007, but the search for it did not gain traction until 2019, when Brazilian teenager Gabriel da Silva Vieira learned of it from Nicolás Zúñiga of Spanish independent record label Dead Wax Records. He uploaded the excerpt of the song to YouTube and several music-related Reddit communities, eventually founding r/TheMysteriousSong.[8]

    On 27 May 2019, Australian music news website Tone Deaf wrote the earliest article focusing on the song, with author Tyler Jenke discussing the preliminary stages of the search and noting its similarities to the 2013 search for a song eventually identified as "On the Roof" by Swedish musician Johan Lindell.[9][10]

    Also in 2019, DJ Paul Baskerville was thought to be related to the song, as it was believed to have been taped off of his program Musik für junge Leute ("music for young people").[11][12][13] He suspects that it was a demo recording that was played once by an NDR presenter and then discarded.[14]

    "Ulterior Motives" / "Everyone Knows That"[edit]
    Main article: Ulterior Motives (song)
    In 2021, WatZatSong user carl92 uploaded a 17-second snippet of a song recorded between 1982 and 1999; they claimed to have found the recording amongst files in a DVD backup, and speculated that it was a leftover from when they were learning to record audio. They also claimed that the snippet was from 1999 and possibly from Spain, where they claimed to live.[15][16][17] Initially, users referred to the song as "Everyone Knows That" due to the lyrics of the snippet.

    The search for the song was initially slow to gain traction, but gained a dedicated following over time.[17] A subreddit dedicated to finding the song was created, with two of its members being interviewed by French commercial TV network TF1 on 7 January 2024.[18] Theorized sources for the song included a 1990s MTV broadcast, production music, or a commercial jingle.[19]

    On 28 April 2024, the song was identified as "Ulterior Motives" by Christopher and Phillip Booth, from the 1980s pornographic film Angels of Passion.[20] Therefore, it is unlikely that the claims he made of it being a leftover from when he was learning to capture audio are true, as spectrogram analysis of the audio matched with a torrented version of the film rather than an official version.[citation needed]

    "On the Roof"[edit]
    "On the Roof" is a song by Swedish musician Johan Lindell, under the name Stay (The Second Time Around). It remained unidentified until 2013 when a listener of Swedish radio station PP3, played the song in hopes that others would recognize it. Lindell had since abandoned music to pursue a career in painting, and was unaware of the search.[18][21]

    D>E>A>T>H>M>E>T>A>L[edit]
    Main article: Panchiko
    In 2016, a 4chan user asked for help identifying a demo EP of D>E>A>T>H>M>E>T>A>L by Panchiko which he had found in a Oxfam shop in Britain. Despite the band name, album name, and cover art being visible, the band members, Owain, Andy, Shaun, and John, were identified only by their first names, and there was no information about the band or its members online. In 2020, the band members were identified by using metadata from the price sticker to geolocate the charity shop to Sherwood, Nottingham, and contacting Facebook users with the same first names in the Sherwood area.[22] The band has since reunited and gone on multiple international tours, as well as made a debut album.[23]

    "How Long (Will It Take)"[edit]
    "How Long (Will It Take)" is a song by Canadian musician Paula Toledo that was licensed for use in the TV film Secret Lives and the series 15/Love.[24] Snippets from the song were used on the menus of bootleg Russian DVDs. The search for the song began when it was posted to a Ukrainian message board in August 2007, where it became known as "How Long Will It Take".[25] In December 2023, user the-arabara found the song after searching the database of Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada.[26] After Toledo learned of the search from her son, she uploaded it to Bandcamp and other streaming services, with the funds from the Bandcamp page being donated to the Music Heals Charitable Foundation.[24] Soon after, fake versions of the song began to appear on streaming services, which she suspected to be streaming fraud.[27]

    See also[edit]
    Rare groove
    Lost media
    Search by sound
    References[edit]
    ^ Dazed (27 February 2024). "Lostwave: how the internet became obsessed with lost songs". Dazed. Retrieved 29 April 2024.
    ^ "Billboard". Nielsen Business Media, Inc. 30 June 1979 – via Google Books.
    ^ Cofer, Jim (20 June 2013). "The Record That (Apparently) Doesn't Exist". jimcofer.com. Retrieved 13 December 2023.
    ^ "Crap From The Past - July 8, 2016: Paul Haney presents a world premiere of D.A.'s Ready 'N' Steady from 1979!". 8 July 2016 – via Internet Archive.
    ^ Browne, David (24 September 2019). "The Unsolved Case of the Most Mysterious Song on the Internet". Rolling Stone. Retrieved 23 November 2019.
    ^ Jones, Alexandra Mae (18 November 2019). "Help solve a decades-long mystery: What is the name of this mysterious 80s song?". CTVNews. Archived from the original on 24 May 2023. Retrieved 24 May 2023.
    ^ Reeve, Tanja (30 May 2020). "Die Jagd nach dem Most Mysterious Song on the Internet". Braunschweiger Zeitung. Archived from the original on 3 July 2020. Retrieved 3 July 2020.
    ^ "This Mysterious Three-Minute Song Has The Internet Baffled". 2 Ocean's Vibe News. 29 July 2021. Archived from the original on 26 December 2021. Retrieved 25 December 2021.
    ^ Jenke, Tyler (27 May 2019). "Can you help some internet sleuths identify a mysterious song?". Tone Deaf. Archived from the original on 31 May 2023. Retrieved 1 June 2023.
    ^ Newstead, Al (23 September 2013). "The 30 Year Puzzle Of The Mystery Song Finally Solved". Tone Deaf. Retrieved 13 December 2023.
    ^ Knörer, Ekkehard (27 September 2019). "Wer kennt diesen Song?". www.zeit.de. Retrieved 16 August 2020.
    ^ "80er-Song lässt User verzweifeln: "Most mysterious song on the internet"? Spuren nach Deutschland". www.rotenburger-rundschau.de (in German). 4 June 2020. Retrieved 16 August 2020.
    ^ Ulrich, Viola (11 September 2019). "Mysteriöser Song: Wer kennt dieses Lied aus den 80er-Jahren?". DIE WELT. Retrieved 17 August 2020.
    ^ "Hamburg Journal: Der geheimnisvolle Song aus dem NDR Archiv | ARD Mediathek". www.ardmediathek.de (in German). Archived from the original on 15 November 2020. Retrieved 9 December 2020.
    ^ às 09:00, Bárbara Castro Publicado 24 de Fevereiro de 2024 (24 February 2024). "Mistério! Conheça a música "perdida" dos anos 1980 que intriga a internet". IGN Brasil (in Brazilian Portuguese). Retrieved 25 February 2024.
    ^ carl92. "Can you help me name this tune?". WatZatSong. Retrieved 16 November 2023.
    ^ Jump up to:a b Klee, Miles (12 November 2023). "Internet Sleuths Want to Track Down This Mystery Pop Song. They Only Have 17 Seconds of It". Rolling Stone. Retrieved 16 November 2023.
    ^ Jump up to:a b morromocoduto (7 January 2024). ""Everyone Knows That" on Journal de 13 heures (TF1, 7 January 2024) ". YouTube.
    ^ Holliday, Laura (27 February 2024). "Lostwave: how the internet became obsessed with identifying lost songs". Dazed.
    ^ Robinson, Ellie (29 April 2024). "Viral Lost Song 'Ulterior Motives' Found In Obscure '80s Porn Flick". The Music (Australia). Retrieved 29 April 2024.
    ^ Newstead, Al (23 September 2013). "The 30 Year Puzzle Of The Mystery Song Finally Solved". Tone Deaf. Retrieved 13 December 2023.
    ^ "Panchiko Reflect on "D>E>A>T>H>M>E>T>A>L," Lost Y2K Demo Turned Internet Cult Hit". Bandcamp Daily. 18 May 2020. Retrieved 27 March 2024.
    ^ Curran, Caitlin (16 August 2022). "'We didn't even know they were there': the little-known bands finding fans years later". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 27 March 2024.
    ^ Jump up to:a b Derdeyn, Stuart (20 December 2023). "Global online search for the author of a 16-year-old song comes to a close in Vancouver". Vancouver Sun.
    ^ Wells, V. S. (19 December 2023). "Internet sleuths spent a decade trying to find a mystery song—and turns out it's from a Vancouver musician". The Georgia Straight.
    ^ Azpiri, Jon (19 December 2023). "Internet sleuths looked for the singer of a mystery song for 16 years. They found her in Vancouver". CBC.
    ^ Azpiri, Jon (8 February 2024). "Fate of Vancouver musician's long-lost song highlights growing problem of streaming fraud". CBC.
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    RobertKim092Wed, 01 May 2024 06:53
    link to the wayback machine snapshot :?
    roughsoupWed, 01 May 2024 06:30
    Ah, All I know about him is a waybac machine snapshot
    BloctansWed, 01 May 2024 06:29
    yes.
    roughsoupWed, 01 May 2024 06:29
    who is givemeslumblojuice? are youo talking about the guy from that incident
    BloctansWed, 01 May 2024 06:26
    dude, this isnt what wzs is meant for, wzs is meant to be a song identification platform, not a place to post joke samples, who are all of you guys btw (chickenstrip, roughsoup and givemeslumblojuice)
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    Ulterior Motives
      
    An AI Extension of the pink radio commonly associated with Ulterior Motives
    Title
    Ulterior Motives
    Artist
    Christopher Saint Booth (Singer unknown)
    Release Year
    1986 (movie)
    Status
    Identified, No studio version
    Search Infos
    Former Placeholder
    Everyone Knows That
    OP
    carl92
    Solved by
    u/south_pole_ball and u/One-Truth-5867
    Mystery Timeframe
    October 7th, 2021 - April 28th, 2024
    Searched for
    2 years, 6 months
     

      
    Lost Media Poster for EKT, kindly made by Discord User "blackpepp"
    "Ulterior Motives", formerly known as "Everyone Knows That" (EKT), was a mysterious pop song by Christopher Saint Booth, exclusively made for the adult film "Angels of Passion" in 1986, uploaded to WatZatSong on October 7th, 2021 by carl92.

     Contents

    1The song
    2History
    3Presumed Lyrics
    4Theories
    5Debunked Leads
    6References
    The song
    Vocaroo link Highest quality link to the original recording, uploaded by carl92.
    WatZatSong Thread
    Highest Quality Remake, uploaded by YourBoyDonald.
    Highest Quality Remaster, uploaded by Gazmj4
    Highest quality version, remastered by xLuciano (video unavailable)
    Clean version, uploaded by urwq
    Full Song (WARNING: NSFW content)
    Fanmade Censored Version
    History
    On October 7th, 2021, a user with the nickname "carl92" uploaded a 17-second sample of the song to WatZatSong. He claimed that he found the song on a file in a DVD backup from 1999. The snippet of the song was later uploaded to YouTube by "Jay Kay." This audio recording was recorded with a 15.734 kHz pilot tone that was only present in MTV broadcasts exclusive to a selected few countries. 15.734 is also the horizontal frequency of NTSC CRT TVs, meaning that the recording can be captured from a CRT TV tuned to a North American TV station. The recording was also likely captured via a computer microphone.

    During 2024, One-Truth-5867, a moderator of the r/everyoneknowsthat subreddit, found a scene from Taboo III that had a song named Animal In Me which sounded very similar to EKT. One-Truth-5867 realized that in the description, it had the names Christopher Saint Booth, and Philip Adrian Booth who are in a BMI and SOCAN with a registry for “Ulterior Motives”. One-Truth-5867 skimmed over 12 hours on the night of April 27, 2024 through films and found similar sounding music, with claps, vocals, and even some duo singing artists. One-Truth-5867 told people about this and a user named u/south_pole_ball started to communicate with One-Truth-5867. They began skimming through all the artist’s remaining movies that One-Truth-5867 had yet to search. u/south_pole_ball tells One-Truth-5867 that they found the song. The song was found from a porn film called Angels of Passion released in 1986, which could be why carl92 didn't give more details. On April 28, 2024, the song was found on a 80s porn VHS, meaning that the crunching sound was not an artifact by carl92's recording, but a squeaking bed that was being creaked by the pressure of the sexual acts happening on it.

    Earlier that same day that the song was found, Chris's Facebook and Instagram accounts were found and contacted by One-Truth-5867, and the most recent of posts were quickly mobbed by comments asking about his affiliation with the song. He would later post on said social medias concerning the song he was notified about, and caused WatZatSong to shut down for a hour.

    Presumed Lyrics
    [Verse 1]
    Something in your eyes makes me realize
    How strange it seems
    Something in your smile, could be up on trial
    Of broken dreams

    [Pre-Chorus 1]
    You're counting all your sheep in disguise
    Caught up in the world of lies

    [Chorus]
    Everyone knows it
    You've got ulterior motives
    Tell me the truth
    Every move shows it
    Ah ha
    Don't you realize that you're telling lies?

    [Verse 2]
    If something's on your mind, spit it out and find
    The perfect scam
    All your truths and dares, do you really care
    Just who I am?

    [Pre-Chorus 2]
    You're always biting more than you can chew
    When will you realize the truth?

    [Chorus]
    'Cause everyone knows it
    You've got ulterior motives
    Tell me the truth
    Every move shows it
    Ah ha
    I got it from the wise you're telling lies?
    Everyone knows that (You've got motives)
    You've got ulterior motives
    Tell me the truth
    Every move shows that (You've got motives)
    You've got ulterior motives

    [Outro]
    You're always biting more than you can chew
    You're always saying more than you do
    You're counting all this sheep in disguise
    Caught up in a world of lies
    Everyone knows it
    Variations suggested by users:

    ”You can't only shoot in disguise, colours in a world of light" or "You're counting on a shot in the dark caught up in a world of love”. ”Everyone knows that you've got theory of motives" or "Everyone knows that she's got the theory of motion”
    ”You're counting on the shifts in the tides" or "You carry all your shame in disguise" "You're counting all the shame in the sky"
    “Hikari nori hi in the sky, kouten wo oblige. Everyone knows that (you’ve got) ulterior motives, tell me the truth, every move shows”
    ”You carry on your wish in the style / caught up in a world of lies / everyone knows that / you got / ulterior motives (tell me the truth) / every move shows t-“
    "You're counting on machines in the skyyyy Caught up in the world, abli-i-i-i-i-i-ind Everyone knows that (You've got) Ulterior Motives Tell me them ,do-o-o-o/to-o-o! Every move shows th-"
    "You're counting on her, she's in disguise, caught up in her word of lies, everyone knows that (she's got) ulterior motives, tell me the truth, every move shows that"
    "You carry all your same in disguise". "Caught up in your web of lies" "Everyone knows that (you've got) ulterior motives, tell me we're through, every movie shows-"
    Theories
    There have been various theories and much speculation surrounding the song. It was initially theorized that the song could have been for a television show. Many users speculated that the singer’s country of origin was that of an Asian country (most likely Japanese, but Filipino was also been floated around) due to the pronunciation heard in the snippet sounding like it would be made in the area. Others speculated that it could have come from a makeup commercial. There was also a strong belief among users that the song could have originated from an unused Saleen car commercial, which was found to be a hoax.

    Another theory was that Savage Garden could possibly be the band behind this song. This was further ignited by the fact that, on November 17, 2023, Darren Hayes made a post on X (formerly Twitter) simply reading "Everyone Knows That".[1] Some thought that Savage Garden did make the song and that a full release could be imminent, and some assumed that Hayes was just gaslighting or trolling. Some time before December 15, 2023, Darren Hayes deleted the aforementioned post due to unknown reasons. Some people speculated the post was deleted so people couldn't think Hayes was trolling, and some people think Hayes just deleted the post because he didn't want to be pestered any further.

    There were people who theorized that this song came from an adult film, due to an interpretation of the lyrics that suggest at the beginning of the snippet the singer says the word "Shit", given that very rarely did that happen on TV in the 90s. It would later turn out that it was correct on April 28, 2024. Immediately after these news, the full song ended up being found, but containing the moans going on during the song due to the lack of a clear, studio version.

    Debunked Leads
    A theory that came from Reddit was the D-Project theory, where the song was either a song the lead singer recorded going solo (Joe Rinoie) or was an early version of "Stuck" from Prototype, 1988. The theory was debunked by Joe himself.

    A theory to identify "Everyone Knows That" posited that the band who made it is "Off Course", citing that their sound was very similar to the singer of Everyone Knows That.

    A theory emerged that this song originated from Dolores "Dee Dee" Kenniebrew's never-released solo album that was originally planned for release in 1987. Dee Dee was originally a backup singer, and then the lead singer for The Crystals, a girl group signed to Phil Spector's label Philles Records back in the 1960s. This theory came from a comment left on YouTube by someone claiming to have interviewed Dee Dee in the 1980s, and is still in contact with her today. This lead has since been ruled out.

    Artificial intelligence (AI) was also been floated around as being the artist behind this song, but it was quickly debunked as carl92's snippet was posted in 2021, when most popular AI tools had yet to reach the general public. There have also been many attempts to extend the song via AI,[2][3][4] which resulted in the song sounding nothing like the original snippet.

    Another theory was that the singer of “Everyone Knows That” could be Roxette, who has multiple different songs that have a similar melody to EKT, which could suggest that it may have been a demo. This theory was later debunked by a Roxette page admin.

    On January 16, 2024, a youtuber claimed the song could be from the band Times Two off an album X2, the biggest possibility is being a demo of their song "Come Over" from the album. But there is no proof as of right now.

    On February 7th, an artist named Osny Melo who has a similar style and similar singing style was mentioned on the song's subreddit. As a Brazilian native, he has also worked with many Latin American and Japanese artists and has experience with commercial work. He was contacted via Instagram by a searcher. On February 12th 2024, Osny himself confirmed he had nothing to do with EKT.

    There were multiple theories about this song being from a chip commercial as some people thought the crunch was a chip or theorized that Carl was eating a chip while recording the mysterious song, which was later found out that it wasn't.

    References
    ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20231121144750/https://twitter.com/darrenhayes/status/1725697367461216265
    ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo79bf4bBcA
    ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3zgNOOx0mY
    ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4cin7LKacE
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  • "link to the wayback machine snapshot :?
    roughsoupWed, 01 May 2024 06:30
    Ah, All I know about him is a waybac machine snapshot
    BloctansWed, 01 May 2024 06:29
    yes.
    roughsoupWed, 01 May 2024 06:29
    who is givemeslumblojuice? are youo talking about the guy from that incident
    BloctansWed, 01 May 2024 06:26
    dude, this isnt what wzs is meant for, wzs is meant to be a song identification platform, not a place to post joke samples, who are all of you guys btw (chickenstrip, roughsoup and givemeslumblojuice)
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