"ugh I made so much mistakes on the message..
I'm not disturbing**Me** and some other people on the website "watzatsong"**
found your** websiteI tried to contact them by instagram but, idk why, I couldn't send them any dm nor to every single person on their group, can anyone try and help me to contact them?
here is the message i tried to send them :
Hello, Josh, I hope you’re doing well and I’m disturbing you from anything, but I had a question. Myself and some other people on the website are looking for the provenance of a song that we called “Factory For Love”. We found you website and thought that your sounds’ lyrics sounded really similar to FFL. So we wanted to ask, to you and your group, if you knew anything about this song, or even if you made it? thank you very much if you accept to help us!
here is the extract that we have of this song : https://youtu.be/nZseMizT_KQ?si=K6IdFEhg8i1BLegOmaybe we can try to contact them to see if they know anything about FFL, maybe they already heard it, or even made it, but didn't post it on their websitenope, they don't have itOh My Lord
Their songs are soo similar to FFL! I'll try to dig out more lyrics they made.
Who knows, maybe they made that song, I mean It's realy similaractually, idk if this leads to something but I searched the lyrics on internet, and found this website (see at the end of the comment). there's at least 50 songs with their lyrics! can someone read them one by one to see if our lyrics may correlate with one of theirs? i don't have time rn to read them... tysm if you do it!
hopefully this will lead to something...
the website : themovementvibe.com
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StikbotGuy (S neo) commented Il y a 2min"If thei infact made it, they would post the lyrics on their website. FFL can't be a unfinished project or a unreleased song cause It's included in that blog and that means it was in public domain
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nuggetta commented Il y a 3min"Can you put the link to the mix? "
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searcher0 commented Il y a 9min"Full audios here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=MuxedNPI2ac
https://www.reddit.com/r/NameThatSong/comments/1345mkl/shoegazey_song_recorded_on_an_old_cassette/" -
searcher0 commented Il y a 9min"Full audios here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=MuxedNPI2ac
https://www.reddit.com/r/NameThatSong/comments/1345mkl/shoegazey_song_recorded_on_an_old_cassette/" -
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StikbotGuy (S neo) commented Il y a 10min"Ok but what about that blog the person who posted FFL mentioned? Are we gonna ignore it? In mu opinion we should try to find that exact blog
"ugh I made so much mistakes on the message..
I'm not disturbing**Me** and some other people on the website "watzatsong"**
found your** websiteI tried to contact them by instagram but, idk why, I couldn't send them any dm nor to every single person on their group, can anyone try and help me to contact them?
here is the message i tried to send them :
Hello, Josh, I hope you’re doing well and I’m disturbing you from anything, but I had a question. Myself and some other people on the website are looking for the provenance of a song that we called “Factory For Love”. We found you website and thought that your sounds’ lyrics sounded really similar to FFL. So we wanted to ask, to you and your group, if you knew anything about this song, or even if you made it? thank you very much if you accept to help us!
here is the extract that we have of this song : https://youtu.be/nZseMizT_KQ?si=K6IdFEhg8i1BLegOmaybe we can try to contact them to see if they know anything about FFL, maybe they already heard it, or even made it, but didn't post it on their websitenope, they don't have itOh My Lord
Their songs are soo similar to FFL! I'll try to dig out more lyrics they made.
Who knows, maybe they made that song, I mean It's realy similaractually, idk if this leads to something but I searched the lyrics on internet, and found this website (see at the end of the comment). there's at least 50 songs with their lyrics! can someone read them one by one to see if our lyrics may correlate with one of theirs? i don't have time rn to read them... tysm if you do it!
hopefully this will lead to something...
the website : themovementvibe.com -
searcher0 commented Il y a 13min"This snippet of a song is originally from the r/NameThatSong subreddit posted by U/DorianVonbeck. The original title included is: "Shoegazey song recorded on an old cassette, probably from the 90's." I have reuploaded the snippet here to hopefully find the song as the original post was made over a year ago with no conclusion. "
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magodiegove commented Il y a 23min"looking for this song since 1982... you ALWAYS have to TRUST IN SOMBODY THAT CAN GUESS A SONG... gimme gimme gimme!!!"
guglielm
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RojoCatto
@Mods cleanup! Please change the artist to "Price Group" and remove the "(demo?)" part of the title according to what Kurty found
Il y a 430 jours
Kurty
I'll let you know if I get the digitized recording.
Il y a 430 jours
Kurty
Looking for more informations about Jim Price, I've found his old angelfire site dedicated to Neblung Price band, which actually quotes the lyrics "All the words are still there, in another green world" and includes a lot of screencaps from old video footage.
https://www.angelfire.com/nj2/nebpri/p5.html
Alright, but we still don't know where the Guglielm's recording comes from originaly.
I was digging through archived pages of R.Stevie Moore website, and I've found a very interesting listings of cassette compilations "Friends And Enemies" produced by R.Stevie Moore in the 80s.
From the labeling of the tapes, I'm sure it was released locally in New Jersey area.
http://web.archive.org/web/20211204045728/http://www.rsteviemoore.com/tp/friendsenemies.html
Excerpt of the 1983 listing is here:
15. ROGER FERGUSON "Radios"
16. PRICE GROUP "The Words Are Still There"
17. MIKE HOPPER "Seems to Soothe"
I am confident that the original version of the song, has to be on that tape. It makes perfect sense. R.Stevie Moore as a producer of the compilation could provide the programmed lo-fi drum track to Jim Price,
and also play some of the other instruments, while Price Group taken care of the rest. So R. Stevie Moore's involvement is explained, but it's a Price Group/Jim Price song in my opinion.
That's why the acoustic recording exist, because RSM liked the song.
From what I know these cassettes are not available anywhere, but maybe someone will be lucky enough to find it/get it somehow. There must be so many obscure songs on these compilation.
BTW. Today is R.Stevie Moore's 71st birthday!
Il y a 456 jours
Kurty
OK, so let's go back to the beginning. Swiðr has found the "acoustic" version on Bandcamp https://rsteviemoore.bandcamp.com/track/the-words-are-still-there along with the "Drums Only" distorted track from the original Guglielm's recording https://rsteviemoore.bandcamp.com/track/words-still-there
We need to go deeper.
Price Check Moore's Code ~ Freedom Now release (which contains the drum track) has this info in the description:
"The Best of Jim Price, WFMU (1977-1982) NJ USA Produced and compiled by R. Stevie Moore"
Jim Price is a WFMU DJ, and a close friend of R. Stevie Moore. They collaborated many times back then, there's a plenty of video footage of them from 70s, 80s and 90s. Jim also recorded a lot of footage for RSM music videos, and he's credited in the descriptions on official R. Stevie Moore YT channel.Examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbYEpYGPMXM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eU9nxW1Shg
Here's a review of "Amateur Hour" release (which contains the acoustic version): http://web.archive.org/web/20211204041506/http://www.rsteviemoore.com/tp/amateur.html
"Recorded over a long weekend in November 1983 with nothing more than a couple of guitars, a set of bongos, and a malfunctioning four-track cassette Portastudio,
Amateur Hour is the R. Stevie Moore album that most closely resembles the lo-fi craze that would start a decade or so later. The 29 songs are a mixture of wayward
semi-improvisations, oddball covers, and new takes of old Moore favorites, mostly performed on a trebly, clangorous acoustic guitar with Moore singing at the very
top of his range, giving much of the album an uneasy, anxious-sounding feel that's mitigated somewhat by the easygoing, ramshackle looseness of the performances."
The listing gives credit to original composers/performers of the songs, for example:
06. We're In Vietnam (1.58)
07. Can't Buy Me Love (1.50) (Beatles)
08. One Night (2.06) (Elvis)
09. The Words Are Still There (2.41) (Jim Price)
10. A Tank! (0.23)
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guglielm
Il y a 529 jours
Kurty
The Best of Jim Price, WFMU (1977-1982) NJ USA
Produced and compiled by R. Stevie Moore
Since Jim Price didn't release anything on it's own in the early 80s, his songs were produced but also released by R.Stevie Moore. I still think it's a song of Jim Price.
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guglielm
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Kurty
R.Stevie Moore sites lists (Jim Price) next to "The Words Are Still There" here: https://web.archive.org/web/20211204041506/http://www.rsteviemoore.com/tp/amateur.html
R.Stevie Moore version features acoustic guitar, but in the background I can hear identical vocals and bass parts just like in the guglielm's recording! I'm not saying it's not his song, it can still be a part of their colaboration (which was a thing in the 80s)
Also there is an old site dedicated to Jim Price and Neblung Price band, which quoted "All The Words Are Still There In Another Green World".
I think those lyrics are important for them, and are significant part of their local music journey. https://www.angelfire.com/nj2/nebpri/p5.html
Jim Price is still a very active host on WFMU so I think he can be asked about it :)
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RojoCatto
A version that resembles the instrumental, but doesn't have the vocals: https://rsteviemoore.bandcamp.com/track/words-still-there
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